Acharya Prashant explains the relationship between a worldly person (sansari) and the world (sansar). He states that when we are engaged in worldly activities, we are not just neutral observers. The moment we see something, we are influenced by it. This is because every object we perceive holds a meaning for us, which is essentially a calculation of profit and loss. We never just see things; it is not possible for us. We lack the capacity to simply observe without immediately, or even beforehand, calculating our potential gain or loss. If there is no profit or loss, we do not even register that we have seen something, because seeing always involves choice. The speaker illustrates this with the example of hunger. When you are hungry, something within you, your history, directs you towards food. You don't go for a walk or to sleep; you go to eat, driven by a purpose and desire. After eating, you are changed; you are no longer the same hungry person. This experience of eating becomes a new part of your history, which in turn creates a new need, pushing you towards something else, like going to the toilet. This cycle, from the dining hall to the toilet, is the life of a worldly person. The suffering inherent in this state is what gives birth to the Upanishads, which question why life is merely this cycle. The relationship between the worldly person and the world is that something within the person sends them towards the world, and upon interacting with an object, that object changes the person. The worldly person is made of the world and runs towards the world. The problem is not seeing the world, but the lack of self-introspection. Spirituality is the practice of self-introspection, which evolves into self-knowledge. The ego (ahankaar) is when one identifies with the seer and sees the world. The Self (Atma) is when one sees both the seer and the world simultaneously. To recognize all natural processes as non-self (anatma) is to be established in the Self (atmastathata).