Acharya Prashant explains the profound meaning behind Kabir Saheb's verse, 'Ram bulawa bhejiya, diya Kabira roye.' He begins with a story of a man who wished to see heaven. Upon entering, the man found people engaged in reading the Bhagavad Gita, discussing the Upanishads, and studying the Quran and Bible. When the man questioned why they were still studying scriptures in heaven, he was told that being immersed in the scriptures and the company of the holy is heaven itself. Acharya Prashant emphasizes that heaven is not a distant place or a future reward; it is a state of being in the present. He asserts that the company of a saint is the true heaven, and seeking a 'Ram' or a paradise elsewhere is a sign of ignorance. He further explains that for Kabir Saheb, the true Ram is present and manifest, not a distant figure who sends invitations. The speaker argues that while the ultimate truth may be formless and beyond attributes, humans exist in the world of forms and thoughts, and thus need a tangible presence like a saint to guide them. He clarifies that the only way to reach non-duality is by fully engaging with and understanding duality. A saint is defined as one whose presence brings an individual closer to their own soul. Acharya Prashant concludes that Ram is not an object of desire or a future goal to be attained in a mythical heaven like Vaikuntha; rather, Ram is the name for the cessation of seeking and the realization of completeness in the here and now.