Acharya Prashant explains that one never sees large trees like the Banyan or Peepal drying up from excessive sun because their roots are so deep they can draw water from a well. When one finds what is truly needed, other miscellaneous, light things lose their importance. He presents two states of being: one is like a small plant, waiting for an external water-giver, and the other is to become a great tree whose very presence invites clouds, and when the clouds come, everyone gets water. This great tree doesn't need the clouds for itself, as its own earth and roots are sufficient, but its existence provides water for all the small plants around it. Using another analogy, he explains the absurdity of misapplying solutions, like a mechanic trying to service a person instead of a car. He says, "Let the thing meet the thing; there will be some meaning and utility for both." The body is like a car, a product of the earth, and is dependent on things like air, food, and sun. One must find something within that is free from all dependencies. The path to this freedom is through 'neti-neti' (not this, not this), where one gradually reduces the importance of the external world. A meaningful relationship is not one of interdependence but one that leads to non-dependence. A meaningful ('sarthak') relationship is selfless ('niswarth'), where the ego dissolves, whereas a selfish ('swarthi') relationship is one where the ego seeks to benefit and expand. The speaker clarifies that 'sarthak' (meaningful) and 'swarth' (selfishness) cannot coexist. The real benefit is the dissolution of the ego that seeks its own benefit. When that happens, the restlessness to find meaning in every little thing subsides. The liberated person is like a great tree, stable in its roots yet sensitive to the world. They are established in the Self internally and in harmony with nature externally. They are not afraid of life's experiences and can offer shelter to others. He quotes Sant Kabir, "If there were no saints, the world would have burned to death," implying that such people provide shade to a world burning in the heat of suffering.