Acharya Prashant explains that if an object of desire, be it pizza, money, or a person, is so charming that it captures your entire mind, you must devote yourself fully to it. This complete devotion, he states, will lead to liberation. The charm of a desired object is maintained by the distance from it. We play a "dirty trick" on ourselves by never allowing ourselves to fully know the object of our desire, thus postponing the knowledge and the eventual disillusionment. This is why we are never fully disappointed by our desires, as we never fully commit to them. The speaker highlights the honesty of the Vedas, comparing them to a naked, unpretentious child who is unconcerned with others' opinions. The spiritual journey begins with an inner angst and a search for fulfillment in the external world, as our senses are naturally oriented outwards. This is why the Vedas, in their initial parts (Karma Kand), are filled with desires directed towards nature (Prakriti). The Vedic seers honestly worshipped the sun, fire, and other natural forces, asking for long life, health, and victory, because they saw these as the source of their sustenance and well-being. They did not pretend to be desireless. The Vedas represent an organic growth. The journey starts with desire-filled actions (Sakam Karma) and moves towards desireless action (Nishkam Karma). The Upanishads represent the culmination of this journey. After fully exploring desires and realizing their futility in providing lasting satisfaction, the inquiry turns inward. The Upanishads take a courageous flight beyond nature worship, asking, "Who is this one who is always begging?" This shift from the external to the internal is the path to liberation. The relationship between the early Vedas and the Upanishads is like that of a mango tree's root and its fruit; the latter cannot exist without the former, yet they appear entirely different. In contrast to the Vedic seers, the speaker asserts that modern people are often hypocrites. We are full of desires but pretend not to be, due to social conditioning and morality that may label desire as evil. This self-deception prevents us from fully exploring our desires and thus from ever being truly disillusioned by them. Self-observation (Atma-vidya) requires the courage to see what lies within. Good company is defined as a space where one can be nakedly honest about oneself without being judged, which is the first step towards healing and liberation.