A questioner asks Acharya Prashant about the nature of reality, referencing a verse by Kabir Saheb: "Ram Niranjan nyara re, anjan sakal pasara re" (Ram, the untainted, is separate; all else is the spread of illusion). The questioner wonders if everything, including the speaker himself, is part of this illusion (Anjan), and how one can escape this loop. Acharya Prashant humorously advises the questioner not to try to read his mind but to focus on what is good for them. Acharya Prashant explains that the idea of "something higher acting through you" is a romantic fantasy. He states that the highest is either what you truly are, or it is a mere fantasy. The only way to step out of the fantasy is to see the fantasy as a fantasy. He reiterates Kabir's words, "anjan sakal pasara re," explaining that everything is fantastic, meaning it is a fantasy. To know this fantasy for what it is, is to realize that "Ram Niranjan nyara re" (Ram, the untainted, is separate). Addressing the concept of escaping the loop, Acharya Prashant clarifies that there is no "somebody" to jump out of the loop. Any attempt to jump is a jump into another loop. What lies beyond the mind is more mind, and what lies beyond more mind is even more mind. The "I" that wants to jump out is itself part of the loop. The only way is to see the loop as the loop, without trying to do anything beyond that. Whatever is to happen then happens on its own. He dismisses various spiritual superstitions, such as a guru's touch transferring energy or a guru's gaze causing enlightenment, as "very fantastic." He asserts that no one is above or beyond another; these are just romantic notions. He explains that actions are not driven by formality but by the six enemies (lust, anger, greed, attachment, ego, and jealousy), which are rooted in fear and selfishness. He concludes that no one can be held in bondage if they are willing to pay the price of liberation. One's own selfishness is what keeps them suppressed.