Acharya Prashant explains that the desire for material things and the desire for flesh are not separate but are organically linked. He states that one might claim to be seeking money or material success rather than flesh, but all material things are necessarily and organically linked to flesh. A person who is a "material lover" will take very little time to turn into a "flesh lover." Conversely, if one is a "flesh lover" in the peak of their youth, as their youth subsides, they will find that the charm for flesh makes way for an addiction to the material. Those who want decorated bodies when they are young are mostly the ones who are crazy after decorated houses once they reach 40 or 50. Both of these wants are one. The speaker illustrates this by saying that at 20, you want to touch and feel somebody's body, whereas at 50, you want to touch and feel an expensive bed, painted walls, large balance sheets, and cars with expensive leather seats. He questions if the tendency is different when caressing a beloved's body versus feeling the leather seats of a new car. The experience of entering a new car with new leather seats is described as sensual and, in its depths, actually erotic, with the scent of leather being very similar to sex. Therefore, one does not need to wait for encounters with women to know if they are sexually motivated; one can simply see if they are attracted to things like leather seats, furniture, carpets, and the glamour of a five-star hotel, which represents the glamour of the body, decorated like a bride prepared for sex. When renunciation happens, both desires for flesh and material things are dropped in parallel because all sensual attractions are one. If you lose the taste for a woman's flesh, you will also lose your taste for the flesh of chicken. Real renunciation is not a targeted dropping but a spontaneous dropping of the inner propensity to consume. When you abide in an inner fullness, all kinds of consumption lose their sheen, and the value you attach to titillation itself drops. The speaker notes that many products are modeled on female bodies or the phallus, and the curves of an attractive car are not very different from the curves of a seductive woman. This is why a car is called "sexy"; it is not just a euphemism but the reality of its design.