Acharya Prashant begins by correcting the premise that enlightenment is a state of feeling joy. He clarifies that enlightenment is not a transformation into another state but the complete dissolution of the self. The one who feels is no longer present in enlightenment, as the very apparatus of feeling is the source of suffering. Therefore, if one is still experiencing feelings, the question of enlightenment does not arise. When asked how to stop the mind's chatter, the speaker advises not to interfere with it. He uses an analogy: if two people are chatting and you intervene to stop them, you become the third person chatting. He probes the questioner's motivation, suggesting that if one participates in the mind's chatter, it is because they are interested in it. He stresses the importance of being honest about what one truly wants, as it is impossible to simultaneously derive pleasure from the mind's gossip and pursue spiritual awakening. The speaker explains that the mind's chatter is an ancient, fragmented process that cannot be forcibly stopped. If one genuinely sees it as worthless, they should simply drop it and engage the mind in better pursuits. This principle applies to spiritual statements like "I am not the body or mind." Instead of repeating this as a mantra, one should start with the honest admission, "I am the body," and then rigorously investigate the consequences of this belief. This honest inquiry is the true path. Acharya Prashant concludes that meditativeness, which he defines as basic inner honesty, must come first. From this state of meditativeness, the right method of meditation will naturally emerge. It is not about finding a method to become meditative. Meditativeness is simply seeing the true as true and the false as false, without pretense. This honesty will then guide all of one's actions and decisions.